last, we only had $1 trillion in deficits. his point is correct. the problem is you have the government taking in 60% of gross domestic product in tax revenue and spending between 23% or 24% in gdp in spending. we are borrowing 40 cents on every dollar that we stand. that has to close. i mentioned the gdp figures because the historic average is that the government takes in about 18% of the gross domestic product. the 2% is a manageable deficit. we are at 16% and 24%. that is too big. if you want to question it broadly, at what level do you set the tax rates and at what level do you set think spending rates? if you continue spending at 24%, taxing and 24% will never happen. the question is, where in the middle ground to you end up? the bowles-simpson commission proposed 21% in taxes and revenue, which would be the balance you would get to. republican members of congress insists that it does not go any higher than 18%. that is the fight that will play out in the next couple of years. how much of our spending are we actually paying for? host: we want